PS1 Classic Letdown: PAL & NTSC Benchmarks vs. Used PS3


Gamers Nexus
Gamers Nexus

We won the PS3 via Goodwill auction for $16.00, since people keep asking. What would you like to see us use our new benchmarking software on next? Check out our PS1 Classic tear-down here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYW-4AOFkDE Controller tear-down here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05wWZ9Wvgsk

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Moogle Midgar
Moogle Midgar

a ps3 $15 as if wow! you can't get a ps3 for less then $60

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Mr Dr Prof Patrick
Mr Dr Prof Patrick

compare the ps3 to a raspberry pi running lakka os and a desktop using some well know ps1 emulator

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Driver Dis
Driver Dis

+Dennis Rigdon All PS3 consoles emulate PS1 stock or modded. The PS2 games are what are not emulated on the 40GB and higher PS3 without buying PS2 classics or modding the console.

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Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden

You can't play Time Crisis on a PS3 or Classic. ..

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lcrazy8l
lcrazy8l

Ditto on every ps3 does ps1 games. I have a middle era slim (but not "super slim" one), you can put a spyro disc in and it works. The hardware compat removal never mattered because the ps3 firmware does ps1 emulation in software on all models.

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Tribute Born
Tribute Born

Lol his hair in the fan

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Serj Star
Serj Star

what ps3 here where I'm at mos likely would be 70 to 100 dollars still

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Glen Waldrop
Glen Waldrop

The PS2 has the original hardware, 100% accurate game play as far as I've been able to tell and I've got an original PS1. I've got two PS2, one or two PS1. I might be convinced to part with one temporarily if I'm assured to get it back.

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Nelson Bennett
Nelson Bennett

Its really great to still have two working original PS1's.

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Upside Down Frisk
Upside Down Frisk

Happy New year everyone!

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Gibson299
Gibson299

your very VERY, unlikely to get a used ps3 for 16$ you sir got lucky lol a 1st/2nd generation ps3 has original ps1 hardware in it. your good to go, just don't use anything higher then Component cables and a max res of 360p. Least one can say a ps1 classic or ps3 are going to be alot more reliable then a used original ps1 or ps2, not to mention scratched discs :(

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Polly Bonanzas
Polly Bonanzas

I'm not too thrilled about the inconsistent frame rate on the PSC, but it's $60 now, and with the ability to play basically any rom, I'd say it's worth it. For the most part, I like to buy my games, but when I'm just playing digital copies, I feel less inclined to actually pay for a download. I've bought a couple games on my PS3, and they look good, but I'm hopeful the hacking community can improve on the PSC. I'm really hoping for them to improve the resolution. If not, it's fine, but maybe they can improve the frame rate as well. I actually just ordered the PSC. I feel like it'll be worth it. I've wanted a good device to play PS games on without much hassle and good output. The PS3 is my current method, but with the addition to play games that even the PS3 doesn't have, is a plus in my book.

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MRWHITE3535
MRWHITE3535

Are you on drugs where the fuck can you get a PS3 for $15..

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Josh Hembree
Josh Hembree

Playstation classic is great now that it's $60. 2 controllers, and the device that is easily hacked to add a ton of games now including SNES, NES, etc.

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Josh Hembree
Josh Hembree

And can't forget how small this thing is compared to a PS3, a nice thing to bring when traveling or something.

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Mike Baz
Mike Baz

Syphon Filter, yew

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JayB29
JayB29

something fun about the PS3 is that they almost forgot the thermal paste on the RSX CPU. some of them had it (not great quality and application), some almost nothing. as soon as i changed the thermal paste for something high-end, the fans never went ON fully. only when it was freakin hot in the summer, yet it still was low speed. before that, the fans were screaming all over the place "GIMME SOME PASTE!!" haha! the thermal paste is so shit that it dries quickly and creates a CPU overheat and the IHS unsolds from the DIE. one technique was to heat with a gun the CPU back and front to melt the Tin and kinda resolder it. it was really a flash repair in order to recover something not to repair definitly. it wasn't holding up. once the paste done, that console was performing better than a non-modified one. no stuttering and shit that overheating can bring on the table.

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HikikomoriGamer
HikikomoriGamer

I think all of this is correct. It's just not enough to warrant people not to purchase it... It's more like a gifty type of thing rather than some accurate electronic for people who want a correct frame rate.

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Jay Silva
Jay Silva

Jailbreak a ps3 it takes 30mins to an hour all software based and you'll be able to play any ps1 game.

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Nathaniel Smith
Nathaniel Smith

Its an emulator. It must be modded.

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OutFreak28
OutFreak28

a ps3 for 15 dollars? i want 28 consoles please.

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Lord Sesshomaru
Lord Sesshomaru

As far as playing PS1 games goes, I just use my fat PS2 on a CRT with component cables. Looks great.

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Tor Arne Svingen
Tor Arne Svingen

So did anyone actually buy the ps1 classic??

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Beau -
Beau -

Also my Ps3 fat plays ps2 games. So yeah

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McTurbo1300
McTurbo1300

This video guy knows his numbers. I couldn't keep up.

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Iskinder Sam
Iskinder Sam

Anyways you can improve the console? Changing the internals maybe.

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Iskinder Sam
Iskinder Sam

Sony likes to fuck itself on all fonts

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Gameplay and Talk
Gameplay and Talk

I think the device isn't too bad if you decide to hack it, which opens up a lot of options. I agree that playing on a previous PS console with backwards compatibility (or an original PS1 itself) is probably the better experience, it should be noted that the original games themselves do cost money and if you wanted everything from this pack in their original physical form, you are likely going to be paying much more than this $100 device costs. Also, PS1 and PS2 aren't HD, so without a quality upscaler these games won't look particularly good on a modern display. The PS3 is a good option, but again you run into the cost of buying the physical games, and if you went the PSN route, not all of the games available on the PS1 Classic are available on PSN. I do think there is a place for something like the PS1 Classic, but I think it's going to depend on one's preferences and overall setup.

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fernando en.caballito
fernando en.caballito

Head cooler haha

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Arthur Collector
Arthur Collector

correction targeted to hipsters

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Vinyl Scratch
Vinyl Scratch

Guess they never miss huh

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Jason D.S.
Jason D.S.

I still have a playstation 2, and Playstation 1 games. I see no reason to get the Playstation classic, nor would I want one seeing it's faults.

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Shane Grayson
Shane Grayson

That's how you do an advert.

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Krystal Myth
Krystal Myth

No power adapter? They went that cheap?

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Obida Hasdia
Obida Hasdia

When will classic ps1 get more games? Will we buy them on the system? Since it dont use discs?!

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Obida Hasdia
Obida Hasdia

Modded cfw ps3 can run ps1 japan mgs? Even tho the ps3 is PAL cfw modded?

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John
John

A $15 PS3 is very best bang for your buck gaming article you can get. Even at $50, which is a more realistic price. Plays emulators relatively well, PS1 and PS2 games flawlessly, reads blu ray for those into that stuff, and much more.

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Jay Jay
Jay Jay

PS2 with CD or Popstarter VS PS1 Classic?

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RaceFace85
RaceFace85

The problem is the enabled auto frameskip option.

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Member Berry
Member Berry

I've got a wayyyyyy better solution. Get a Playstation/Vita TV.. Hack it.. And play all your PS1 games with a DS3.. It can also play PSP and Vita games on the big screen, and remote play your PS4.

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100Bucks
100Bucks

Here is a simple way to play for free without downloading anything. http://www.ps1fun.com/

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CRIMSON HAWK
CRIMSON HAWK

Guess you are buying PS3 boot leg Russian made units because local there are zero 20 GIG backwards compatible PS3s. On EBay they normally sell for nore then 100. Now sure the bid may start at 15.00 but it won't sell for that. So buying some broken unit for 15.00 does not count. You really lost all credibility when you said they cost 15 bucks.

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pepperoniipizza
pepperoniipizza

I have tried tekken 3 at ps3 but quality its not really good. Its looks a lot of empty lines when characters moves

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pepperoniipizza
pepperoniipizza

Anyway ps3 compatiblility its not 100% good..i also tried fifa 98 and presents lot of graphic glich at ps3

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AkaHummingBird
AkaHummingBird

I use FPse and psp for psx games

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Rodovan Ra
Rodovan Ra

If you just want to play the games IDK get a calculator and install the emulator there, this is embarrassing, how can they not make an emulator that runs the games perfectly in 2018 ? I mean even an Am2 cpu or entel pentium 4 1GHZ with 100 megs of ram can emulate the ps1 perfectly.

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Ricardo Fernandes
Ricardo Fernandes

I´ll just use my ps1 or ps2 for this...

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Honest Mike
Honest Mike

Correction to a common misconception: ALL models of ps3 can play ps1 games. It was only PS2 support that was removed from the later models.

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bleakAntiquity
bleakAntiquity

now just watch how old PS3 consoles shoot up in price

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Henrik Lahn Andersen
Henrik Lahn Andersen

These classic consoles are just another example of how making the all mighty $ has become the end all and be all of these companies (insert random No Man's Sky pushing joke here). There is NO GOOD REASON why we can't have a 100% picture perfect emulation these days. People point out architecture as an issue - which used to be a valid explanation, but with the horsepower and versatility of modern processors, we have so much power to spare that you could grab generate the emulation in - let's say 4 samples simultaneously (if this is the optimal amount I do not know, it's just an example, and I'm picking this technique because it's basically one of the least efficient ways of doing it, but to showcase how infuriatingly lazy these products have been designed I'm using it) at different timings. Now take the average and throw it on the screen with very little to no added input lag - and it would effectively remove any and all lag spikes (Explanation: If you run 4 renders at slightly different timings and pick the dominant frame, then the periodic lagspike on each frame will be staggered, so 3 will not have it, and the last one can be "ignored". All it takes now is some fine tuning of the timings and you should be golden.) For crying out loud even that crap ARM processor in the "PS1 Classic" is running at 15% at most times - which actually adds up to it being able to run 4 samples and 1 master and still have 25% overhead (Yes grossly simplified - but the point remains the same) This is basically shitting all over peoples nostalgia for a bygone era where games studios and devs had to be both skilled and creative to get the most out of what was available. The fact that the 1.5GHz ARM processor delivers a choppy experience when emulating a 33.33MHz RISC processor - is frankly amazingly poor when considering this isn't an "Unofficial product" - but a 1st party Sony (also include the craptastic Nintendo classics in this) release. Shame on you Sony ... Shame... Shame... LOL

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Henrik Lahn Andersen
Henrik Lahn Andersen

ALSO - http://www.mediatek.com/products/tablets/mt8167a <--- LOL but why?!

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Konstantin Eremchenko
Konstantin Eremchenko

result of drop fps this is emulated of reading cd ahahaha

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DvdXploitr
DvdXploitr

PS3s selling for $15-$20? Maybe you can find one at a yard sale for that cheap, but cheapest i've seen is about $50-$75...usually close to $100...but, as the video stated, depending on where you live. I just am in shock that you can get PS3s for that price...the price of a Blu-Ray movie...remember when these came out and they were $599 and people were price gouging at $1000+? PS3 makes a great media center (NetFlix, Audio CDs, USB flash storage media, DVDs and Blu-Ray) and of course you can do a lot more especially if you hack it (which is very easy)....just surprised that its now possible to buy one cheaper than a stand-alone blu-ray player

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Dorian Sheridan
Dorian Sheridan

There's alot of assumptive language towards his viewers. "you could buy a ps1 but no one wants to do that". I did that, so did probably half the viewers who watch these breakdowns who are genuinely interested.

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toontownlegomaster
toontownlegomaster

I have the RTX 2080 ti will that be enough for ps1 games?

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WayStedYou
WayStedYou

Not sure why they didn't just use their old stock of ps vita tv, that cost 99 dollars and runs ps1 and vita games natively, throw that chip into a classic ps1 shell and done

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Malinkadink
Malinkadink

i found a FW 1.6 CECHA01 PS3, cleaned it up, new thermal pads, liquid metal, 4.82 CFW loaded up a bunch of must play ps1/ps2/ps3 games on a 1TB SSD, huge library to go through.

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