Ask GN 104: Voltage Death & 'Real' Vcore? CPU Die Coating?


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    Gamers NexusGamers Nexus

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    Ask GN is back! This one talks about safely checking Vcore for overclocking, CPU die coating (silicone nitrite diffusion barriers), and more.
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    Bonus episode here: www.patreon.com/gamersnexus
    TIMESTAMPS
    The CPU “Die” Actually Isn’t the Die?
    02:29 - Soren: “So I just watched der8auers video where he talks about the 9900k stim issues, and he sanded down the die. I was under the impression the die was the processor and all the transistors were in there. But if it's okay to sand down, then what really is the die?And where are the transistors located, the pcb under the die? That makes me think again what the die really is and what it's function is.”
    How Do I Check Voltage Accurately to Avoid Damage?
    09:14 - SadPandaa: “@Steve Burke Asked this question on your last live stream and you gave a quick though but wondering a little more. I am overclocking a non-k i5 6400 at 4.7GHz 1.325V so I have to disable C-states and turbo boost, full time overclock. To reduce power usage and heat I have been using level 8 LLC to ramp up voltage under load and drop back down to 1.280 at idle. This seems like it has the effect I am looking for but I am worried that max LLC may be spiking higher than what is reported in HWinfo. Is this something I should worry about and test with an o-scope or do the spikes normally report somewhat accurately as max vcore in HWinfo?”
    Why Are Some “100%” Loads More Intensive Than Others?
    15:51 - Banana Milk: :@Steve Burke What makes some 100% CPU/GPU loads more intense than others? INTEL Burn Test, AVX workloads, fuzzy donut, etc.”
    Does Crunch Culture Exist in Hardware?
    22:27 - cG.fu*: “@Steve Burke #askgn-questions Steve, in the PC game and video game community more broadly, we're starting to hear more and more about the problems with "crunch" culture as developers approach release of a game and are asked to work a high number of hours by management. You yourself have talked about the hours that you've worked during launch review periods in the brief window between receiving hardware for review and embargo lift. My question is given your contacts in the industry: does a similar culture of "crunch" exist on the engineering and marketing side at the companies that develop the products we all love to evaluate? I recognize that the time horizon (i.e. when the crunch happens) is probably different for someone developing the RTX 2080 TI compared to the Witcher 3, but does a culture of "crunch" pervade Intel, AMD, or NVIDIA and other firms like ASUS, MSI, EVGA ahead of the release of a new product or not?”
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    30:10 Who’s Really Responsible for the RX 580 2048?
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Gamers Nexus
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zixzorashhh
zixzorashhh

#askGN ripple suppression vs voltage regulation: which is more important? suppose you compare 2 PSUs both have good voltage regulation & ripple suppression, however one's better with the voltage regulation & the other's better with ripple

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Gamers Nexus
Gamers Nexus

Ike - it's from the stream where we show RTX cards crashing.

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Joseph Kacvinsky
Joseph Kacvinsky

+Tony TheBrave it works so much better you renamed it?

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Ze Omega
Ze Omega

Do you think DRT will incorporate CPU in the future to help buff RTX utilization in the future? or do you think that CPU ray tracing simply isn't powerful enough to help in any meaningful way? Also, in light of how Battlefield has simply turned off some elements of ray tracing to help performance do you think its incorporation into traditional lighting tricks is limited and that seeing a truly mixed, or even a, performance enhancing utilization isn't possible? Lastly, Nvidia's biggest highlight and something you were very critical of its RTX technology was "it just works." it's stand point being that it may be in a full utilization and not need much modification from an engineering standpoint meaning that it's only real scaling is the number of RTX cores and not its design to help performance in future GPUs? Thanks GN for being one of the best places for enthusiasts.

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Joseph Kacvinsky
Joseph Kacvinsky

How many extra likes did you get for Snowflake?

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James Ruggeri
James Ruggeri

Please do some 2019 MOBO vids!

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Travis Guerra
Travis Guerra

Hello Steve, I am not a big overclocker but I do tend to bump up the frequency on whatever cpu I have through the motherboard bios whenever I put a rig together. Recently, I was helping a friend that had just put together a rig with a ryzen 7 2700x, asus prime x470, gtx 1070 and I noticed that his cpu was sitting at nearly 1.5 volts with stock settings and now tweaking whatsoever. I have always thought that 1.5V was killer for a cpu and it should be running much lower than that at stock. Could you shed some light on this? I've tried googling it, but I can't seem to find a good explanation. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Martin Turney
Martin Turney

We love you Snowflake! 🐱

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Kat Steve
Kat Steve

Snowflake Rules!!

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Rizaki Koizumi
Rizaki Koizumi

#AskGN with the 1080 Ti practically out of stock now and only able to buy used, where is your position now on the RTX 2080 considering the scathing review you gave it when it released and would you recommend it over a 1080 Ti for those not looking for used parts? I ask because as I type this I will get (or possibly by the time you read this, already have) a EVGA RTX 2080 because I wanted something equivalent to the 1080 Ti in performance at least. I don't feel comfortable in buying used GPUs in fear of getting a dying card with no warranty amongst other issues.

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KRIL89
KRIL89

So we know that the cost of DRAM/NAND is going down, but with the release of Radeon 7 and the current prices of Vega 56/64, could we also get an update on the current price of HBM? It's got to be cheaper than the 80 dollars per stack (160 per vega 56/64) that everyone has quoted for awhile now.

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Flipsider
Flipsider

#askgn Does the size of a mATX motherboard actually limit its capabilities to provide decent overclocking support? Do you think board partners will actually provide boards with such capabilities?

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Zack Puterbaugh
Zack Puterbaugh

Will you revisit the antec 900 case? I have good memories of it from when i had my wolfdale on an nforce board clocked up sky high. Does it still hold up? Is the price worth the value? Is used a good idea? Is there a good kit made for filtration in the front? Basically really wanna go with that case again. But no rush. Id like to see steve and gn opinion on this one. When i finally build this time, im shooting for the moon.

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Jannie Kirsten
Jannie Kirsten

Hi, Steve! I have an interesting question that you can hopefully help with. My PC monitor is an LG with a 1920*1200 (i.e. 16:10) resolution. How would this affect frame rates in games (assuming the games support and utilise the resolution)? I.e. would performance be between 1080p and 1440p performance? Or what can I expect? I want to upgrade my system soon, on a tight budget, so I want to be able to optimise specifically my video card purchase, but most GPU reviews only show 1080p and 1440p performance. So basically, I want to know how to use the available information on video card performance to get the best value for my (uncommon) screen resolution.

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Michel Jeandillou
Michel Jeandillou

Years ago you made an ask GN episode where you said it's better to mount the radiator of an AIO with the tubes pointing down, when the rad is front mounted. Is that really true? I never saw an actual thermal/noise test for this. I agree that it would probably make more noise since air is probably stuck at the top, where the tubes are, but I've had my x62 for a year with the tubes up and I've no noise issue. I'm just not sure if im losing a bit on the thermal side of things.

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justbob333
justbob333

Question. Case design. Why are all the tempered glass windows full sheet. Can they not fabricate the glass front panels to have ventilation slots in them, or perhaps a cool logo cut out for better airflow? I understand once tempered its near impossible to do, but before the tempering process?

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arian Kazemzadeh
arian Kazemzadeh

dye

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Jeffrey Photonboy
Jeffrey Photonboy

"crunch time" I have a buddy at Microsoft who periodically has to work long, extra-hour shifts. Sometimes a few weeks (with overtime...he's doing all right)... now there are also SOME of those people like certain bug fixers who don't necessarily work overtime (some do) but rather have their bug fix priorities changed.. and just FYI, but my buddy said no program has EVER released from Microsoft with no bugs... they simply start with the worst ones then work their way down the list and after release they'll keep fixing until the remaining bugs sit there, unfixed because the bug fixers simply don't have time to fix the remaining bugs... it's my understanding that NO PROGRAM from Microsoft has ever had every identified bug fixed. Ever.

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Slave Liberator
Slave Liberator

486K subscribers... you need to do something or your geek street cred gonna go down like Cyrix meeting Quake :P

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RobeusRT
RobeusRT

#AskGN Is it theoretically possible to make GDDR DIMM and have corresponding slots on graphics cards? If so, what are the disadvantages of this approach (apart from the impossibility of artificially segmenting products by the amount of video memory)? And what about standard DDR DIMM slots for budget cards or as an extension to the on-board GDDR?

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Olli Martikainen
Olli Martikainen

Would it be possible to have a black and white version of your mousepad? I for one would like a neutral colorscheme on my desk.

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Caseton
Caseton

#askGN Hey Steve! I recently picked up the new Gigabtye Aero 15x (8750H, 16gb 2666, 1070max-q). It's an amazing machine, but as I' sure you are aware, even with their great cooling the 8750H throttles under heavy cpu load. I have been debating on swapping out the TIM for LM on the cpu and gpu so the machine can then hopefully run flat out all the time without downclocking. My question is, assuming it is applied properly, what is the potential risk of LM seeping out onto other components? What steps would you recommend I take to address these risks? Thanks for all your hard work over the years, and have a happy holiday season!

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Georg F
Georg F

Well that was a lot of information about a die and diffusion layers. An you still managed to not clearly answer the question. Yes you are sanding down the die. Most of the thickness of the die is just for mechanical stability though. The transistors are worked into the silicon only from one side and only occupy a very thin layer of the die. These days most chips are mounted upside down onto the substrate (flip-chip method). So the now top of the die is just "dumb" silicon with a diffusion layer, while the transistors are in the bottom 100-300 microns of the chip.

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Undisclosed Music
Undisclosed Music

Dear Gamers Nexus, could you please give some information about the impact of power management features on performance? For instance, I have a 7940x overclocked to 4.5 GHz all core and I am not sure whether to enable or disable SpeedStep, C-States and what other advanced measures I can take (Cache overclocking etc.) for max performance. Thank you and merry Christmas to you all!

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Yoola
Yoola

Since a lot of people have a notebook besides just a desktop tower, what would be the viability of using a notebook as a dedicated "streaming machine"? What's the minimum CPU we are looking at for let's say 720p60 6000kbps fast encoding? I feel like that could possibly be a better and much cheaper alternative opposed to building entire PC just for 1 task, especially for hobby "streamers".

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Ethan L
Ethan L

When overclocking memory on a GPU, does it follow the same rules as standard system memory? As in, your system memory always reads half of it’s actual clock speed due to reading per channel. Does GPU memory work the same way? The spec page for my EVGA 2080Ti FTW3 shows 14000MHz, but when in EVGA Precision X1, the clock shows 7000MHz. So by that math, when increasing the memory clock by say 350MHz, it is functionally increasing it by 700MHz. Is that in fact the case? Asking because when I attempt to set anything higher than about +380MHz on the memory, it artifacts like crazy (haven’t figured out how to adjust voltage in Precision X1 or MSI Afterburner). I keep hearing how the memory on RTX cards can overclock to almost +1000MHz, so that’s why I’m curious. Any clarification you could provide would be amazing. Thanks Steve!

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Jeff Taylor
Jeff Taylor

This is a Question for the next Ask GN. Could you please explain the difference between the Turing 2080ti, RTX Titan, and the Quadro RTX 6000 and which one would give the best performance in Ray Tracing games? Thanks

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Boom Box
Boom Box

You want stories about people working too many hours. Do some research into the people who created the Amiga computer back in the early 80's and then research after Commodore purchased it from them. Many stories of people sleeping at Commodore and not going home for days. Those guys never bitched about it though cause the passion of creating something that was great was their driving force. R.I.P Commodore, a company that created multimedia and had the best highly skilled engineers, only to have it all taken away by a management team that couldn't organize a root in a brothel.

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Igors Jakimenko
Igors Jakimenko

#AskGN why installing CLC (cpu cooler I guess) is not recommended with tubes on top configuration for long term use?

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Majrec
Majrec

Question: With rtx2060s comming and 2050 rummors, do you think we will get a 1080 to 1440p DLSS version for it to make more sense, or maybe even 720 to 1080 later for rtx2050?

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Marcel Krebs
Marcel Krebs

Snowflakes timing was absolutely impeccable.

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1967 kID
1967 kID

Love the bike frames.

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Emilio Hontucan
Emilio Hontucan

Ask GN: I have a MSI B350m bazooka motherboard on 7A38v1H, ryzen 2600 and a GSkill CL16-18-18-38 4GB x 2 (F4-3200C16D-8GVKB). I have tried upping SOC and DRAM voltages but ram was unstable. I have given up, loaded optimized defaults and just adjusted the timings to 15-15-15-35 and 2800Mhz one last time, and it just worked. It boots, I can run the tests and have no incompatibility with some games sensitive to unstable RAM settings. Is this something of an illusion (on HWinfo it says 1399mhz)? And just by upping the voltages may be detrimental to stable RAM settings? Can this still be considered overclocking?

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Cs Dn
Cs Dn

#AskGN - Hey Steve and the guys, are you planning to do a review of the i7-9800x against the i9-9900k? Would love to see how the two compare, especially with the PCIE lane difference (44 vs 16) both in out of the box and overclocking scenarios along with single GPU and SLI/XFire setups.

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Chris H
Chris H

Indium, now there is a metal I rarely hear about ourside of work. I use indium on gold for work.

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Gay Gay
Gay Gay

How to mount Intel 115X CPU cooler on AM4 motherboard?

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-21- Mods
-21- Mods

I have a question. On the 1080ti and 2080ti’s PCB it has a memory chip slot with no memory chip on it. Is it possible to solder on a memory chip from another card of the same maker and get 12gb memory? Haha

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Rob 'Emrys' Brown
Rob 'Emrys' Brown

Yay Snowflake :)

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c gokey
c gokey

ASUS are garbage

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J Gordon
J Gordon

Been watching live streams on CareyHolzman building ryzen with x470 motherboards & suffering 'sata' (not nvme)m.2 slow downs on the top m.2 slot on diffrent manufacturers.But not on the bottom m.2.Is this a chip set issue or something else?

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Andrei Andreev
Andrei Andreev

Raw Der8auer: The Indium Connection

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Beamy2000
Beamy2000

Its end of 2018, and i´m using an arctic freezer pro rev.2 on an i5 4690. What would you upgrade to, if you had to, if you were on a budget?^^

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sawyer
sawyer

If you are overclocking a CPU and don't increase voltage will it be the same temperature as with no voltage increase?

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Lewis McCarthy
Lewis McCarthy

#AskGN Does the RTX 2080/2080Ti really offer better NVENC streaming than the GTX 1080/1080Ti cards? It's something that Nvidia have been keen to state but I'm not seeing much evidence in favour of this. Is this a hardware level change, for example a encoding chip upgrade, or a software level change. Also I'd love for you to verify this as I'm sure it may help many trying to make the choice of which generation of card to go with who stream too.

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F A
F A

Is that a SC heckler?

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恵勇気
恵勇気

What GPU were you using during the Fur Mark footage? I need to make sure I avoid those.

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Timbo Boy
Timbo Boy

#AskGN How bad are reasonable group regulated PSUs like the BeQuiet L8 Series for modern hardware. People talk about them like they would definitly fry your hard drives, even if you bought a good brand. Are they really that bad? I can't imagine that BeQuiet or Seasonic would have shipped those kind of PSUs if they would have been that bad.

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Cetel'm TerreX
Cetel'm TerreX

that teleporting animation ... 1 day to render :D

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

oh... was not expecting to be quoted, that was the correct choice in not pronouncing my name, it's not a word, the zeros do not make an 'ooh' sound my point was about market pressure similar to the gcn '8' series or geforce '3' series, i have no idea how sheek made up all that without fact checking

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

yes, a noble metal provides the best wetting conditions ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) on the morrow we exlaim this message to the rest of the kingdom!

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propeldragon
propeldragon

ask gn thermal paste applied on both sides of a thermal pad on a laptop. Would this help cooling?

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propeldragon
propeldragon

+Brock you'd think so but not that I can find

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Brock
Brock

+propeldragon I actually haven't had to replace any thermal pads. The only thing I have that uses em is a GPU and a 380x. Chances are paste and pads wouldn't get me any better OCs. There's gotta be someone out there though doing a comparison on a bunch.

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propeldragon
propeldragon

+Brock yeah for sure. What thermal pad brand do you use? I really recommend gelid.

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Brock
Brock

+propeldragon True, but I'd still prefer a thicker, higher quality thermal pad. If adding paste is your only option it's better then nothing though.

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propeldragon
propeldragon

+Brock well with these unbalanced heatsinks in these laptops with different tolerances thermal paste could fill the gap and allow a tighter fit.

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J R
J R

How does intel design their processors, I mean do they use some sort of HDL software like Aldec or Wookie?

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Farhan
Farhan

upvote for snowflake

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Adriano Sciocchetti
Adriano Sciocchetti

Why is SATA called 6gb/s but ‘bottle necks’ at~500 MBs?

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

i think network equipment has the same issue, the supported rate includes all the other data/communications that arent the user's data, so error correction packets, etc

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James Derrick
James Derrick

GN104? that's gotta be some sort of NVIDIA GPU, right?

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

newton gpu

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Tomos Saggers
Tomos Saggers

Steve ever rode the original heckler oops showing my mtb age lol

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Tomos Saggers
Tomos Saggers

snowflake aka cable tie management goddess

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Tomos Saggers
Tomos Saggers

yay real snowflake

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Bad x Mike
Bad x Mike

I love snow flake

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Santiago Medina
Santiago Medina

Immediate like for intro!!

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sleep
sleep

all heil sad panda

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Madarius
Madarius

@AskGN I assume from the video soldering requires a more robust/thicker diffusion barrier then just paste is this the sole reason for the thicker die package on chips using STIM? Or is there another reason?

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mjc0961
mjc0961

You made it clear enough that AMD made the 580 2048. Some AMD fans just don't want to hear a bad word said about AMD and thus wanted to blame the manufacturer instead.

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

that's not really what i meant, he was answering the other guy's question, that guy just made things up without even checking what brands exist do you remember the radeon '8970' or geforce 3 series before fermi? OEMs wanted a new number, so i was asking in this sense, how do we know that AMD randomly felt like renaming a 570 to 580? the fact that it's china only makes it seem like some market was asking for it, the partners went with it rather than continuing to sell 570 (unless 570 is now discontinued, that's also possible if it can be confirmed)

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JasonOfA36
JasonOfA36

#askgn Okay, Im a shill for watching Linus' video about bitdefender. It works but of course, you dont need it if you know what youre doing. But is windows defender really good enough and idiot-proof enough as a protection for your computer? Or do I really need to teach my friends to stop clicking on shady links instead?

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

they need to stop clicking, it doesnt matter if everything is fully updated, there is always the chance for something new to exist that can install itself, that's why there are always new security patches for most software

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Madarius
Madarius

I generally tell non tech-savvy Friends/Family don't click on anything that makes you want to click on it just google what it says to find the info/safe link to pages about it. It's not perfect but I get less people asking me to fix their shit because they got some malware and have "no idea how it could of happened".

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Kevin Ganser
Kevin Ganser

Are you selling that wood background? :D Im in the Michigan.

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Space Reptile
Space Reptile

Sen. Analyst Snowflake got a kill on some wire that was on the desk

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AbbiaTheSnake
AbbiaTheSnake

I was wondering how the binning process for cpus/gpus is done. Thanks Steve and GN crew!

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Madarius
Madarius

GN links on the topics http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1140-silicon-die-bin-out-process-explained http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=Xqehgfxxfvc (Title is, Binning a CPU: Volt-Frequency Curve on an i7-8086K) This one isn't how Intel does it but how it can be done by consumers to determine the quality or how well binned their particular chip is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTtQbkrK7E (Title is, Ask GN 9: G3258 vs 860K, GPU Binning, CPU Stress Test) Very stripped down explanation of silicon binning at the fab level. Because lithography isn't perfect and has variance in silicon quality even on the same wafer there is defects on individual dies. Sometimes the defect is minor enough that it can still be used, for example an 8 core die with a defect in 1-4 of the cores can be used for a 4 core chip instead of an 8 core since the other 4 cores are still fine. To find the best performing chips and the defected but still usable silicon they put the silicon in a test machine that will check each die for voltage, heat, and frequency, performance so they know which dies are suitable for the highest end products and also which can be salvaged for lower end parts.

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ILA
ILA

How am I not subscribed to you??? I've watched your every video for the last two years regularly... Weird...

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Bleakh
Bleakh

Omg a cat

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Pekka Ylönen
Pekka Ylönen

When I buy PSU, should I look power factor or ripple voltage on max load? Is PF 0.80 and ripple 30 mV good enough for OC system to work 24/7?

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

are those part of the specs? confirm with (good) reviews

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ReatuKrentor
ReatuKrentor

Senior QA analyst Snowflake making sure the logo comes on screen the right way.

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phildev
phildev

29:12 one more argument here is that you not only protect yourself from being attached to "bad companies/ bad products" but you also protect your reputeable advertisers from being attached to them as well, which makes their advertisment on your media a lot more valuable. paying for a review is not necessarily bad if the payment does not influence the outcome and the way the review is done. so if a shady company asks for a review and is willing to pay for testing and results shown in a video and they get a bad review because their product is crap.. nothing wrong with that ( disclosing is still mandatory ) but yeah there is a not so minor catch... in the long run this could cause conflicts of interests and there is a possility that you loose credibility and/ or are tempted to do a bogus one in favor of money..

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Brock
Brock

Paid reviews are a slippery slope. If they pay for special testing equipment or to bring a reviewer to them because of reasons then sure that's likely okay, and should still be disclosed. Just paying for a normal review though is a massive conflict of interest and what happens is if the review is good, even if that's an honest evaluation of the product it lacks credibility. Therefor the only way to do a paid review without losing credibility is to give a bad review or go to such extreme lengths to be transparent about the whole thing that it's probably not worth it.

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phildev
phildev

looking at the second question 12:15 and all the enthusiasts out there it may very well be a market for motherboards having th outputs to directly connect to their high end measuring tools..

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impylse
impylse

#AskGN What wears down the GPU fans more: having them spin 24/7 at low rpm or having them go on/off every minute? Because the default fan curve by nvidia gets stuck in that on/off loop when the gpu is nearly idle, and the fans emit a weird noise everytime they turn on.

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

if your ambient temp was different, would the on/off be less frequent? the motor gets strained on start up, but the lube gets worn when spinning this question applies for all fans, though maybe gravity & size of fan might complicate comparisons

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mitchyk
mitchyk

Is snowflake the reason for an AMD CAT-astophre? Or does she just CAT-alogue their inventory?

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

they were catalyst drivers for a reason

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enrt
enrt

I there Steve. I got a question about cheap OC. I'm running a 4690k on a Asus z97-k mobo (totally garbage,1st rev. with only 4phases). Im pushing it to 4.3 at about 1.2v without issues,but now I want to push it harder and am worried about ''the safe zone'' for this motherboard. Found some people are running it a 1.35v. How far can you get your voltages on 4phase mobos without burning anything? Greetings from Spain! and sorry for my little english :)

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

+enrt i would look at it a different way then, look at the cpu watt usage if available, get a wall power meter if possible ~$20 compare stock to current overclock to further overclocks, if the power usage doesnt increase that much, then it's probably fine also compare to a 4790k's power usage, since you do not have HT, you have lower usage, you have to overclock in the first place to reach 4790's stock power, which the mobo is presumably designed to run edit: maybe touch the vrm heatsinks, or just add a fan aimed at them, fans solve just about every vrm heat problem)

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enrt
enrt

I guess not, but really dont know. this is what happens when you read your temps on this mobo (even on iddle) http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3524713/motherboard-reading-115-degrees-multiple-monitoring-softwares.html

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

do you have temperature readings of the VRMs?

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Jarvis Garcia
Jarvis Garcia

I am here for bike frames. Mainly a bicycle commuter getting into cyclocross.

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Howard Johnson
Howard Johnson

yay for snowflake!!!

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Abdulhkeem Alhadhrami
Abdulhkeem Alhadhrami

#AskGN Why don't we get bigger CPU cache each gen and why are we still in megabyte cache on HDD's and not gigabytes by now?

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Alex Holmberg
Alex Holmberg

#AskGN What is the difference between DC and PWM fan settings?

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inevitabledecline
inevitabledecline

Cat asshole @ 00:24. You're welcome.

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DiamondPugs
DiamondPugs

Awwwn, that's the only snowflake that doesn't trigger the alt-right.

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WarpOs
WarpOs

no rythm at all, godd it baad- seem like a no motivation monologue

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Just Pelé
Just Pelé

Floppy tacos out for Snowflake. Giggity. (Few people will get this reference.)

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Johan Krüger-Haglert
Johan Krüger-Haglert

Kitteh loves Steve.

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Dean Smith
Dean Smith

The crunch occurs in almost every industry, several times I have worked 48 hours straight , worked from 6 am to 10pm for months on end to get a product to the market in several industries. When the going gets tough - the tough get going ....

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Dean Smith
Dean Smith

+kn00tcn Yes, each of them made substantial profits for the company..... now , doing it for myself.

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

months! did it release well?

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Dover Edwards
Dover Edwards

#Askgn I'm considering upgrading from a 5820k to a 7800x, mainly to get into a newer feature set. do you think it's worth it, or just go the 8700k route?

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pino de vogel
pino de vogel

This whole intel thing is pissing me off. Intel should just speak up and explain why its thicker. As long as they dont im thinking they either f@#ked up or its because of soldering and if the latter is they case they just are idiots for soldering if the thicker silicon increases temps more then soldering would ever lower them. Were talking uo to 20 degrees in theory here with equal thickness of the 8700k on a cpu that gets really hot. For me its the difference between acceptable or hell no to dam hot.

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blakedmc1989RaveHD
blakedmc1989RaveHD

i'm lookin' to upgrade from a build with a AMD FX 8350 to a build with a Core i7 4790k, is it possible to do a look back vid at Core i7 4790k to see if i'm makin' a good decision for my upgrade?

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blakedmc1989RaveHD
blakedmc1989RaveHD

+Brock yea i kinda rather start fresh with tha ram especially when i have tha thought of if i need to kill time with my old FX build bein' tha video editing PC on tha side while i game on my future build with a 4790k, yea it would be nice to game and video edit on 1 PC but it just ain't gunna happen realistically unless u're as rich as Richie Rich lol

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Brock
Brock

+blakedmc1989RaveHD You could always OC the RAM but it sounds like it's going to be utilized in another system anyway. You know what you're doing.

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blakedmc1989RaveHD
blakedmc1989RaveHD

+Brock tha problem is my ram for my FX 8350 build is 1333mhz which would be too slow imo and i want to use tha FX 8350 build for a editing software PC and not lookin' to go higher tha 1080p which it's where i'ma use my 2nd hand 560ti for tha editing software use of my FX build because my Vegas Pro i have doesn't have Accelerated Rendering support higher than tha 500 series so yea it's what i'ma use it for on tha side. however i will use my GTX 960 from my FX build to my Haswell build and i don't want my ram for my new build slower than 1600mhz and lower tha 16gb of ram

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Brock
Brock

+blakedmc1989RaveHD Why can't you use the RAM from the FX8350 system? I would have thought that's why you were going that route because that's essentially the best mainstream Intel CPU that can use DDR3. $235 sounds like a lot IMO BUT I don't know the prices of that chip, and it's not like it's a slow CPU by any means. I know what you mean about the bottlenecks though. 2 years ago I replaced my GPU with a temporary 380x (yeah... that was an idea that lacked foresight) and then the CPU bottlenecked so bad I OC'd it which blew the motherboards VRM. So I thought hey I'll buy a Pentium based system, move to the new platform and get a 7700K used in a couple years. Only to then have the mining craze hit and I couldn't get a Pentium but already had an Intel board. So I then found my 6600k on eBay used for $240 CAD. Were I to have known I'd be using this new system for 2+ years, and then passing it down to my SO I 100% would have went with a 3770k. I had 16GB of DDR3 in that old system AND sold it before RAM prices exploded. *slams head into monitor* Anyway that's my story. You're gonna like the i7, and I hope you find a way to get up and running ASAP. If I could I'd totally give you one of the bajillion HDDs I have gathering dust. Best of luck!

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blakedmc1989RaveHD
blakedmc1989RaveHD

+Brock i got my 4790k in new condition for about $235 recently so i think i didn't get too bad of a deal since it's still goin' for $400 bucks for some reason and even used is mostly goin' for $250 or higher right now with barely people sellin' it used for less tha 200 bucks and i pulled tha trigger on gettin' a 4790k just because i'm tired of bein' bottlenecked, however i am still a few parts away from completing my build, i just need ram and hard drives and i should be almost good to go but i ran out of money atm :/ however i'm still savin' up as well to complete tha build however it's a really a need for my new build

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olov244
olov244

is snowflake going to run for president?

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blumsicle
blumsicle

Looks like Snowflake was getting ready to do some cable management with that twist tie

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Ryukushin
Ryukushin

Bessssssssttt INTROOOO EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Roraigh Price
Roraigh Price

can you show visually how ECC effects workloads, artifacting in benchmarks ?

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azoey
azoey

I've seen on a youtube channel that he use WD40 to clean computer components, specially graphics card. So I was wondering is that actually good for the computer components or it will damage them?

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Leigh Taylor
Leigh Taylor

So if you blow up a chip is what you are left with "The Remains of the Die"?

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Shannon Smith
Shannon Smith

For the die question. Think of it this way. You have your "pcb" and then you put lacquer on it to protect it from the environment and to keep all of the components "in place".

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Sina Madani
Sina Madani

Serious technical question: how many % more views do videos featuring Snowflake get?

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C.D. Reimer
C.D. Reimer

QUESTION: A year ago I picked up an LSI SAS3081E-R SAS controller card for $18 from Newegg to install in my Freenas file server. That same card is now selling for $150. Is this related to tariffs, price manipulation and/or demand?

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Grim lock
Grim lock

Guys, hi... I have plans for upgrading my pc... I dont know what is going to be worth for at least 3 more years without needed to upgrade again, so i still dont know what cpu choose... Ryzen 7 2700x or I7 8700K... I will not OC... Suggestions?

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JosieCat
JosieCat

+Grim lock Hey Im using a 1060 6gb still so no worry, either cpu should be more than enough for it, i have an I5 4670k still, havent upgraded in 5 years, but it still games great

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Grim lock
Grim lock

+JosieCat a 1050ti... 4gb. Plan is for gtx 1060ti 6gb... cant afford more on gpu because in argentina prices are... overpriced? e.e

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JosieCat
JosieCat

What GPU are you running?

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Grim lock
Grim lock

+dave Anthem the upcoming game... etc..

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Grim lock
Grim lock

+dave Long term gaming, for games like Lost ark, warframe... Black Desert etc...

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Parker Young
Parker Young

Oh the weather outside may be frightful, but analyst snowflake's input is so delightful.

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Christopher Berry
Christopher Berry

EARLY RAY TRACING I Was surprised it was used way back when thought you might be intrested This Link time about 8:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB_UZsJUbwQ

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lolence3
lolence3

Hey Steve, Do you know of any ATX cases with a left hand side Motherboard mount, I've looked around and have found none (other than custom build). I'd like to have my graphics card mounted so i can see the "fancy" side.

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definitlynotyourtoaster
definitlynotyourtoaster

+lolence3 some be quiet cases do

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lolence3
lolence3

Ray G cheers, I’ll have a look back and see if I can find it :)

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Ray G
Ray G

They reviewed a case that was able to be inverted. Perhaps look at their case reviews. Sorry i dont remember which hope that helps.

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ugzz
ugzz

You guys mention GPU margins a lot, like a lot. I just can't imagine the info you are getting, even from the source, is accurate. If they only made 2% or 3% on new cards, how is it that we see occasional discounts / coupons / sales? Even at something like $50 off that would eat into such a small margin, are they then selling at a loss? I've even seen some 2080s and such have minor discounts since launch here and there. How does that work?

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kn00tcn
kn00tcn

stores definitely put things at a loss, they may need storage space or get people to look at other products certain stores offering price match do actually deny the request if it's 'below their cost', so that's one way to see how much a store pays to get stock

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ugzz
ugzz

+Daniel Kammerer that almost sounds valid, but doesn't take into consideration things like evga direct sales. i still feel like they arent losing cash on each purchase. on Reddit people were even talking about a 2080ti for $1,150 weeks ago when they are 1200 direct. Maybe im just a skeptic, without seeing the numbers myself its tough to believe.

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Daniel Kammerer
Daniel Kammerer

That's because the manufacturer/AIB companies aren't the ones selling you the card typically. They buy gpus from Nvidia, assemble the rest of the card, and sell the cards in volume to retailers which then set the market price and sell the card to you. The manufacturers are barely selling the cards to retailers for more than what it costs to make them--those are the cutthroat margins Steve is referring to. It has very little to do with what retailers are able to charge.

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nanoflower1
nanoflower1

The snowiest of Snowflakes!

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